In a recent episode of the Coffee with Karen podcast, host Karen Roberts engages in a profound conversation with Frances O’Brien, a certified hypnotherapist, advanced emotional freedom technique therapist, and counselor. With over a decade of experience, Frances has dedicated her life to guiding individuals through the intricate journey of grief, offering them a path towards hope and healing.

Frances’s Personal Transformation

Frances begins by sharing her personal transformation journey, which was rooted in a profound fear of death due to her father’s early passing. Her journey was significantly shaped by a college class that explored the concept of death through literature, music, and film. Additionally, she volunteered at a suicide helpline, a support group, and a hospice, which deepened her understanding of grief and loss.

Addressing Society’s Struggles with Grief

Karen and Frances delve into society’s challenges when it comes to addressing grief and loss. They emphasize that our society often avoids discussions about the inevitability of death, leaving many unprepared to navigate the complex terrain of grief. They stress the importance of open conversations about grief and its unique and intricate nature, influenced by various factors.

Embracing the Spiritual Dimension of Death

Frances introduces the spiritual dimension of death, emphasizing her belief that death is a transition rather than an end. The conversation explores the interconnectedness of science and spirituality, offering a more comprehensive understanding of the concept. Frances introduces the idea of death doulas, individuals who guide both the departing and their loved ones through a peaceful transition.

Frances’s Work and Books

Frances shares her work and upcoming books, “Finding Hope After Loss” and “Giving Hope After Loss.” These books offer guidance for navigating grief and supporting others through their journeys. The episode concludes with a poignant reminder of the importance of open conversations about death and grief, aiming to foster a culture of support and understanding.

Exploring the Spiritual Realm and Healing Techniques

The conversation takes a profound turn as Karen and Frances explore the connection between human experience and the spiritual realm. They discuss the significance of embracing the spiritual connection that remains after a loved one transitions. The episode delves into Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT), rooted in ancient Eastern beliefs, and its convergence of science and spirituality. They also touch on the power of the subconscious mind and hypnotherapy for healing.

Healing from Within and Personal Growth

Frances and Karen emphasize the importance of healing from within and the strong correlation between physical and mental well-being. They discuss societal conditioning, self-imposed limitations, and the value of hypnotherapy in addressing deep-rooted issues. The segment closes with a reminder to practice self-compassion and embrace various paths to healing.

Embracing Personal Growth and Transformation

The final segment centers on personal growth, self-discovery, and positive transformation. The hosts discuss the role of hindsight, the desire to control the future, and the incredible power of the subconscious mind. Frances shares insights on hypnosis and its transformative potential. Listeners are encouraged to recognize their inner strength, acknowledge their potential, and explore tools and techniques for personal growth.


This Coffee with Karen podcast episode with Frances O’Brien offers profound insights into the realms of grief, healing, spirituality, and personal growth. It serves as a reminder that open conversations about death and grief are essential for fostering a culture of support and understanding. Frances’s work and wisdom provide a guiding light for those navigating the intricate journey of grief. Subscribe, like, and share the podcast for more insightful conversations that illuminate the path to holistic healing and growth. Until next time, may your journey be guided by self-awareness and the infinite potential within.

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